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From: rusty
| Posted: 1/4/2006 10:07:18 PM
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airbags this is where i get my bags from they have all kinds of brackets and wont stick it to you http://www.suicidedoors.com/ Last Edited by MOD: 1/5/2006 1:10:50 AM |
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From: Jack
| Posted: 1/4/2006 11:18:52 PM
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Just Jack
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RE: airbags No freaking way. I thought I was the only one who knew about Jason and Suicidedoors.com. I like to think I helped them grow so much this past year. |
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From: cm2
| Posted: 1/4/2006 11:30:54 PM
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Need the car
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RE: airbags link didn't work. |
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From: Jack
| Posted: 1/4/2006 11:34:44 PM
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Just Jack
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RE: airbags Try it again. |
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From: Tim
| Posted: 1/5/2006 1:11:12 AM
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elibomtab
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RE: airbags Now try it... |
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From: Jack
| Posted: 1/5/2006 6:09:32 AM
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Just Jack
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RE: airbags
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From: Dee
| Posted: 1/5/2006 6:26:50 AM
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Born 2 Drive
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RE: airbags Jack is that ur chassis???
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From: Jack
| Posted: 1/5/2006 6:32:33 AM
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Just Jack
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RE: airbags Yep |
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From: Dee
| Posted: 1/5/2006 6:53:07 AM
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Born 2 Drive
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RE: airbags I just got a phone call from home. They're under strict instructions that when a package arrives from America to a) Ring me straight away and b) bring it to me after the phone call. Fingers crossed.
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From: rusty
| Posted: 1/5/2006 8:07:11 AM
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RE: airbags jack i just wanted to say yon need to be very carefull with your 10 swicht set up the last truck i done (the green one) just has 2 front up back up i desroyed a front end on the truck before that one going down the road and not meaning to (eazy to hit the wrong one or some one bump it and people messing with it when one corner goes down moving it's baaaaad i just know how much time you spent on it and how much money im no expert on batmobiles but i would keep my box (Hide it) and run one to the dash where you can hit it fast(that the oh s%it pot hole or bump button ) just for up and down (i seen something coming and tried to grab the box to raise my truck and that baaaad thing happen |
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From: 2wylde
| Posted: 1/5/2006 9:42:16 AM
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GOTHAM MATT
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RE: airbags Rusty, I always assumed the controls for lowering/raising were added to the dash; do they usually go someplace else? _______________________________________________ When I die, I want to die like my grandfather, who died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car. |
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From: Dee
| Posted: 1/5/2006 10:48:15 AM
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Born 2 Drive
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RE: airbags Is there a major advantage of having an airbag over hydrolics. Is it a weight issue or a reliable issue or does it matter???
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From: cm2
| Posted: 1/5/2006 2:39:11 PM
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Need the car
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RE: airbags Most hot rods and choppers are going to air ride. Hydralics are nice if you have the coin and want to go sky high. But air bags can achieve the same ride hight with out the bouncing effect that hydralics have. I've beeen told that when using airbags, its like driving on a cloud. I've also been told "horror" storys of their reliability. But the people could never produce proof. Its good to see cheaper suppliers. Most companies with kits are charging an arm and a leg. |
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From: n8mobiles
| Posted: 1/5/2006 3:34:11 PM
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Where's mine?
Posts: 432 |
RE: airbags PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I HAVE WRONG INFO: I have talked to both hydraylics, and Air bag guys, and here are what they said were the pros and cons Hydrylics is becoming cheaper, due to airbags becoming popular Air is smoother than Hydraulics when driving. (up AND down?) (I see shocks on that air sight, but either system replaces your normal ride springs) AIR you have a compressor that has to refill, so you can't go up and down over and over all day like hydraulics, you have a few minutes between uses for the tank to get to pressure, not so in hydraulics. (I would think you would want to use the same system for guns, so all hydraulics or air, is that what you did Jack?) BOTH take a bunch of extra 12 volt car batteries to run the system. TRUE? FALSE? HALF RIGHT? Discuss amongst yourselves. I don't like the 4x4 look of the carmel car, but understand you gotta lift to get over things like curbs and coke cans, and if I had to do that to a 89, I would want to be able to drop it down for the right stance, but does that mean a weird bumpy or mush ride? Would it be best to raise the springs to where the car is barely leagal, but a little high, and just drive it that way? Jack tell us your thought process on going with air instead of hydrulics and recharge time, how much lift in inches is needed to go from cool to legal and to "SPEED BUMP!" 
 
Chip Foose, I am your doppleganger |
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From: n8mobiles
| Posted: 1/5/2006 4:22:26 PM
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Where's mine?
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RE: airbags
I am assuming those are your switches on the floor? 10 switches!? up and down for each wheel, and 2 guns? 
Chip Foose, I am your doppleganger |
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From: rusty
| Posted: 1/5/2006 5:57:52 PM
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RE: airbags yep i was saying the up and down for each wheel is where you can have a problem you can still have your box and run a swicht thats just for your front to come up or down if you accidently hit one of the others moveing it will drop that coner down and you hear rubber burning and fiberglass busting and your still tring to hit the right one as far as air and hydros theres no way i would use the hydros and you just need one good battery and a good compresser not one that cant do the job and has to set and run all the time if you want to do it right get you a good set up like jacks that looks like he has a 450 or 480 viair and a 5 gallon tank you can use just 4 vales if you want front up and down and back up and down but here is what i would do extra get a nitrogen tank with a regulater like off your torch and set it at like 150 or a little more run a line from there to your system in front of the tank with a cutoff get the tank filled and it will last a while and if or when it runs out you can use the other but the good side your not depending on the pump or battery and it is instance your car comes up right then and fast if you use your pump more than a few time in a row it gets harder and harder for the pump to keep up and some times you need it right then. just going down a bumpy road will knock the air out of your bags and the pump has to replace it sorry i will shut up |
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From: Jack
| Posted: 1/5/2006 7:14:03 PM
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Just Jack
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RE: airbags Wow I had no idea there would be so many questions waiting on me when I got home. The 10-switch box was provided with the kit from Suicidedoors.com. Personally I don't like it very much. I got the 8 valve set-up just so I could do each wheel independently incase the body was uneven. Now I can tell you this is not the first thing I have redone over and over. If I had to do it again I would probably just do the 4-valve set-up and who knows I may still do that. Why the air, well it's cheap and it's easy. There is a kit for just about anything, unfortunately I had to make custom plates for the bags to get it the ride height I wanted. Still that was no big deal I simply bought the metal tube and end plates from suicidedoors.com and then welded it all together myself. Are there problems with air bags? So far YES!!! I have had so many fittings leak that I stopped counting. Here's some food for thought; what do you do if you have a bag go bad, or a bag/line develops a leak and now the car is sitting on the ground? Well what I did what make some brackets to go in the place of the rubber bump stops. Yes it solid and the ride would really suck but it would get you home. So all you have to do is jack up the car remove the bump stop and install the bracket. I have also heard of guys making solid bars that could be put in place of the shock just so you could get her home. Why not hydraulics? I don't know, I guess because again bags are cheap and easy. I have been told that the ride with hydraulics is really stiff and sucks. To end the issue with the air compressor always needing to run you could buy one of the engine mounted compressor kits. I hear those things are awesome and are pretty much just an A/C compressor. What did I forget? I guess I'll have to reread everything later. |
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From: rusty
| Posted: 1/5/2006 10:11:18 PM
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RE: airbags jack if you are using the push lock fitting i know what your saying the only luck i have had and its still working is the old compression fittings lowes has them cheap put that sucker on there put some pipe dope on it for extra help and tighten the crap out of it . it works!!! as for the ac compressor i have done that too it was a stock chevy the down of that is you have to oil it and then you have to drain your tank (mess) the ac oil has when sky high too. but mine would fill a 12 gallon tank in less than 2 minutes and another down side if you live where its cold the vales will stick but after you work out the bugs its fine the last truck i sold that i build has been driven every day to the guys work 60 miles plus lunch for almost a year (if you want to see it i will put some pictures on the upload page its blue and white zig zag painted by me |
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From: Jack
| Posted: 1/5/2006 11:38:26 PM
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Just Jack
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RE: airbags Hell yea! you know Jack loves to see pix. 
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From: Nitro
| Posted: 1/6/2006 12:46:31 AM
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Number 3
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RE: airbags
Rusty's pics Last Edited by Nitro: 1/6/2006 7:20:28 AM |
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From: Nitro
| Posted: 1/6/2006 12:48:18 AM
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Number 3
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RE: airbags
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From: Dee
| Posted: 1/6/2006 4:48:54 AM
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Born 2 Drive
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RE: airbags Man thats low. I'd have problems with sheep and small farmers getting stuck in the grill.
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From: rusty
| Posted: 1/6/2006 9:09:51 AM
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RE: airbags it would raise up higher than stock. the green truck lays the body on the ground on 20's but on a batmobile i would leave the back springs in and put a over the axle mount for the bags so they would be just used for raising it higher might do it on the front too |
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From: cm2
| Posted: 1/6/2006 2:55:04 PM
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Need the car
Posts: 63 |
RE: airbags Have you thought about using air struts? http://www.ridetech.com/ |
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From: cm2
| Posted: 1/7/2006 2:18:33 AM
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Need the car
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RE: airbags Just looking more closely at the pic of the interior. See your going with the hurst quarter stick shifter. Good choice. Did the original have the same thing? Very impressive by the way. 
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